PCI Express 4.0 as Fast As Possible
The newest version of PCI Express will start appearing on motherboards soon - but is there anything compelling about it?
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"RGB GPU with A.I on-board to actively sync your RGB to your mood" that one cracked me up Linus and actively cracking me up even now and for future times to come. Honestly I am over RGB because it started of as a nice anesthetic to a PC but evolved into something that manufacturers got overwhelming increased market shares with resulting in a lack of evolving hardware to release as well as killing the average consumer/gamer living in a country who's currency to the $ is a 10th or less not being able to afford a mid range gaming PC for a couple of hundred dollars. For instance my upgrade from Q4 2013/Q1 2014 I upgraded to the Z77 chipset (Asus Maximus V GENE) and a i5-3570K with 16GB DDR3 memory powered by a Antec HCG semi modular PSU and lastly the GTX 770 a couple of months later. So as a comparison the amount this set me back in 2013 was more or less $850-1000 for a mid to high end gaming rig with a 120Hz monitor running on a Corsair Force GT 60GB SSD. If I wanted to upgrade to the latest Z370 chipset (Entry level MSI Z370-A PRO) on a G-sync monitor, with the unlocked version i5 CPU from the Intel Coffee Lake series and adding a mid range GTX 1060 (because the 1070 and 1070ti should not actually exist in my eyes) with 8gb DDR4 memory lastly being powered by a 500W Antec PSU (the cheapest that store had to offer) this build would set me back at least $2000 and this isn't even with any fans, aftermarket cpu cooler, good looking parts, modular PSU or a SSD not to mention peripherals currently on the market and their prices going a long with then. It is sad how manufacturers are milking the piggy bank and how quickly they can implement new technology when their at the other of the it like cryptocurrency laws and hardware security (its just something to help making my statement i am not boasting cryptos i understand the dangers people can get hold of on the internet of things with crypto payments) etc. For teenagers in my country living in a middle class society close to graduating high school it literary became a choice of getting a small second hand hatchback car for their 18th birthday or a mid range gaming PC with the basic peripherals etc. How are kids suppose to cope in this lifestyle not being able to have fun and living a normal teenager life without growing up in a wealthy household. Sad sad times are coming and coming faster then ever. Hey okay so that was just something I thought about when comparing my teenager life with my cousins and the financial evolving that started about 2 years ago. Luckily for them they have me as a uncle who luckily for me studied to become a 3D artist utilizing GPU computing power in the workplace for compiling 3D models and renders on workstation hardware like Nvidia's P6000 so don't feel sad for my cousins they are sorted with gaming PC's but when I was in that situation back in 2008-2010 being raised by a single parent being the last born of 4 it was not possible to just get something like a gaming console as a gift not to mention a gaming PC. Story of my life bro!
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ReplyDeleteI sell PCIe and PCIe accessories.
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ReplyDelete32GB per second, you know what that means... PCIe CPUs.
ReplyDeleteGigabytes per second or gigabits per second?
ReplyDeleteI cant wait to look back on this comment in 2025 and reflect on how much has changed in 7 years
ReplyDeletei think volta architechture can benefit from pci e 4.0, who knows, we might even see computer that can calculate all possibiblities of weather in 3d this year, given the fact that the more the technology evolves, the faster it evolves to the next generation
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ReplyDeleteIt's too bad we can't just skip to PCI EXPRESS 10.0
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ReplyDeleteHow would pcie 4 free up lanes? A x16 card would take up 16 lanes on pcie 3.0 or 4.0 right?
ReplyDeleteWe already have implementations in the form of OpenPower machines, starting with IBM Linux boxes based on Power9 that also include NVLink.
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ReplyDeleteI need 4.0 like a need a new iPhone every year.
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ReplyDeleteI thought the speed is measured in Giga-Bits per second not Giga-Bytes. There is a significant difference between Bits and Bytes. First of all computers are divided by number of bytes per architecture, for example: old 8 bit computers such as ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, Atari 800XL; 16 bits computers such as Commodore Amiga, Atari ST, Apple Macintosh, IBM PC; then more common to us 32 bits computers with mostly single core computers and modern parallel multicore computers running 64 bits architecture. Number of bytes is allocated in each byte. Old modems were able to stream over the phone lines 2400, 9600, 14400, 28800 and 57000 BPS (Bits Per Second), current network cards can stream well over 1 Giga-Bits per second on standart CAT-5/6 cable and way more on optical cables.
ReplyDeletePCI architecture has multiple streams running at the same time and the speed is still measured in number Bits per seconds not Bytes. As a proof, compare execution time on the same computer with 64 bits architecture 32 and 64 bits OS and run direct video command execution from memory in both 32 and 64 bit version. You will see same bit rate transfer and in case of 64 bit architecture only 50% speed of 32 bit execution. Number of bits is same and number of bytes is reduced respectively to number of bits per byte.
Please do not confuse people with terminology. I do realize that in both cases same abbreviations are being used GB/s but in fact they mean completely different things.
I still have 2.0 PCI-e on my mobo. ASUS Crosshair V Formula which is a kick ass board (9 world records). Yes, I'm still running an FX-8350 (also a record holder @ 8.874 GHz?, or was), which can keep up with the best of 'em. I'm assuming, 4.0 will be reverse compatible?
ReplyDeleteI'm already thinking at PCI Express 5.0 with 64GB/s
ReplyDeleteBut my threadripper can already do all this.
ReplyDeleteIt's literally just like when PCI-E 3.0 came out. Nothing can use all of it's bandwidth.
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Still running a gt1030 with pcie 1.1 4x. Even with doom 4 the bus isn't saturated
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